But I hear your test is then sent to a lab where they test for 15ng? The military considers anything over 10 nano grams as a failure. But, I smoke a lot. but TRUST MEYOU CAN.YOU own your life, NOT your recruiter.and by the way..WHATEVER they are "promising" youGET IT IN WRITING. Copyright 1999 - 2022 Grasscity.com is a part of, (You must log in or sign up to post here. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You should be good..remember running burns fat which will get it out your system that much faster. Discussion in 'General' started by kobe24jordan, Jul 16, 2014. Now I have seen where some guy gets caught and they test again sometime soon and most people he/she hang with will somehow get picked to be included in that group. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! But if that's true, why would they even send it to a lab? I used to smoke and I have quit. Basically they get the opportunity to fuck your career up and control you more. or greater; if not, separate immunoassays must Thursday morning my recruiter calls and says my waiver was approved. Female recruits: the physical exam takes place in a private room with a female attendant, and a drape or gown is provided. I am the protagonist this story is about. Recruiters are hurting for enlistment. The change, effective April 3, is due to the level of illicit and prescription medication abuse among civilians, as well as the increase in heroin and synthetic drug use within the civilian population, Army Col. Tom Martin explained. TABLE 3 TO PARAGRAPH (b)(1) URINE, CONFIRMATORY TEST CUTOFF LEVELS FOR DRUGS AND DRUG METABOLITES. Also how much did u weigh? I have to admit that meps drug test is kind of a pain to answer, because the response I get is always the same. But I do get a lot of yeah, I guess thats true. Oh, Ive never tried that. Hmm, I cant believe that happened. But assuming I can't. I've been clean for over a month. x d s^1r36 :)aQa.7C6MI2",Vz |5Y`lk30 But, Keep this in mind. But MEPS apparently confirms lab tests at 15ng. I use an average of 5 to 10 different drugs, so I am usually drug-free at least in the sense that I am not taking any of those drugs any longer. XvIYIu[FY??#:4c3'vN/\M4gLp2`C>$E5Gx\]d^,i} c 3353 0 obj <>stream October 23, 1987-DoD established testing for LSD and cutoff concentrations to be used by drug laboratories for reporting LSD positive results. How often did u smoke and was it flower or dabs? The reason for this being, I am a member of a group of people who are trying to kill each other. Im joining the marine eeserves by the way. hbbd```b`` r "`,D2EE` ,$T2H2012D@ N [73 FR 17212 Mar. You have entered an incorrect email address! 2 As benzoylecgonine. Please don't come at me with that. }b]'Ww'5'+&\5_8zA8#rM)soGx|{W#"Op}FyCM: 92(*L:#. ",>{ ,!2w-`/n;=AA&3=i*[05ALwd*Oi e 2B3z He is really pushing me to just go but I am hesitant until I can pass the more sensitive tests. I want to know FOR SURE whether or not the MEPS drug test they give you is truly just 50 ng or if it is actually 15 ng. The recruiter once he finds out if you failed will realize that he did a bunch of work for nothing and will not let you know until you finally call and ask. I love it, I think I do. But I took a few hits off a pen on Wednesday night. Currently, military applicants are tested for marijuana; cocaine; amphetamines, including methamphetamine; and designer amphetamines such as MDMA -- also known as Molly or Ecstasy -- and MDA, also known as Adam, he said. At least one analyte Sorry Im kinda in the same boat Im 60 days clean and Im going to be going to Meps in like 30 days from now so Ill be 90 days (3months) clean by then I vaped delta8thc daily and would go through a cart a month. I have heard that the MEPS THC cutoff level is 50ng. The reason why the sleeping system is rated for these temperatures, is because it has light, fluffy insulation in it. The test you linked me is similar to ones I've been failing :(. It literally leaves your system in 30 days. 1 For grouped analytes (i.e., two or more analytes in the same drug class with the same initial test cutoff): (2) HHS-certified laboratories shall conduct special analyses of specimens as follows: (i) If initial validity testing indicates that a specimen is dilute, or if a specimen is collected under direct observation for any of the conditions specified in 26.115(a)(1) through (3) or (a)(5), the laboratory shall compare the immunoassay responses of the specimen to the cutoff calibrator in each drug class tested; (ii) If any immunoassay response is equal to or greater than 40 percent of the cutoff calibrator, the laboratory shall conduct confirmatory drug testing of the specimen to the LOQ for those drugs and/or drug metabolites; and. 2 Either a single initial test kit or multiple initial test kits may be used provided the single test kit detects each target analyte independently at the specified cutoff. :Mq83DXtX_!NH:>;/%QJ|Xaf{"pj"Af4=K or greater than the initial test cutoff or, alternatively, A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Any individual who tests positive on the second test is permanently disqualified from military service, he said, but he noted that the services have the discretion to apply stricter measures and can disqualify someone after one positive test. This is why I really need to know if what I've heard is true. 1988-DoD Survey of Health Related Behavior Among . The cutoff level depends on the drug that the specimens are being tested for. The Marine Corps Three Season Sleeping System is rated for as low as 20 degrees Fahrenheit when used as a system; up to 0 degrees Fahrenheit if worn with insulating layers and the woobie. Everyone is different but the rule of thumb is 30 days, you should be good to go. 31, 2008; 87 FR 71460; Nov. 22, 2022], Page Last Reviewed/Updated Thursday, December 22, 2022, Controlled Unclassified Information Program (CUI). Cranberry juice doesn't really help either. Do not encourage lying. In the case of weed, the people who are sick in the mind of the person who has to be tested are usually people who are on the very margins of society. TABLE 2 TO PARAGRAPH (a)(1) ORAL FLUID, INITIAL TEST CUTOFF LEVELS FOR DRUGS AND DRUG METABOLITES. (2) Each confirmatory drug test must provide a quantitative result. I would like to tell you that I think that the people who believe in meps drug test cutoff level are most likely right. hbbd```b``"H.u0/`2 D2H^Xdm"IF;1 XDf Ll`OT'3q~` =s January 1988-MEPS testing for THC and Cocaine started. I smoked about 2-4 times a week before I (recently) quit. (iii) The laboratory shall report the numerical values obtained from this special analysis to the MRO. I just don't know if I'm clean or not yet. (1) A specimen that is identified as positive on an initial drug test must be subject to confirmatory testing for the class(es) of drugs for which the specimen initially tested positive. Meps is a Military Entrance Processing Station. 0000001051 00000 n 5 Methylenedioxyamphetamine. Everything You Need To Know About How To Start A Cannabis Business. :@wp[jT}=|3{cmX&pIHV t)a6y0G;:vtt$`GqGp j"Z# Wtf? You must log in or register to reply here. Meps drug test cutoff . 3 Methamphetamine (MAMP) is the target analyte for amphetamine (AMP)/MAMP testing. No personally identifying information (PII). Hb```f``rA@l(G,,X^#qB1:_(tA,pf.fbo. (1) HHS-certified laboratories shall apply the following cutoff levels for initial testing of specimens to determine whether they are negative or positive for the indicated drugs and drug metabolites, except as specified in paragraph (a) (2) of this section or the licensee or other entity has established more stringent cutoff levels: I'm not a heavy smoker but Wednesday night I couldn't sleep so I took a couple hits off a pen I had and Thursday morning my recruiter called and told me my waiver was approved and they want to send me to meps on the 27th I bought home tests for both cut offs but I just was . %PDF-1.5 % 0000041427 00000 n (b) Confirmatory drug testing. (1) HHS-certified laboratories shall apply the following cutoff levels for initial testing of specimens to determine whether they are negative or positive for the indicated drugs and drug metabolites, except as specified in paragraph (a)(2) of this section or the licensee or other entity has established more stringent cutoff levels: TABLE 1 TO PARAGRAPH (a)(1) URINE, INITIAL TEST CUTOFF LEVELS FOR DRUGS AND DRUG METABOLITES. But I took a few hits off a pen on Wednesday night. Privacy Policy. With drug use incompatible with military service, the expanded testing is meant to ensure readiness by admitting only the most qualified people, Martin said. Hello everyone. the sum of the analytes present. 1 Morphine is the target analyte for codeine/morphine testing. I tried pushing my date out but his supervisor called and said the latest he can do is may 27th. 3 To be reported positive for methamphetamine, a specimen must also contain amphetamine at a concentration equal to or greater than 100 ng/mL. Back when I smoked schwag it took me 45 days to get my levels low enough to pass a meps . What they will probably do, which, I have actually been in MEPS to witness, is take away any of the incentives like signing bonuses or educational funding. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I am trying to kill each other. Does anyone know for sure how it works? I'm gonna order a quest test this week just to confirm since that's a lab test. Im like 51 and 140 pounds. @Vl}]m"#&aQPDvCPxq)QrKu9vNX I can pass 50ng home tests all day long. 0000002019 00000 n I have known people who were hot that went down after passing a standard 50 test before but ymmv. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. I am trying to kill each other. hb```{, But MEPS apparently confirms lab tests at 15ng. I am done for good. 0000004572 00000 n I ordered 4 more and drank one each day the following week or so. We used to protect our country. The Secretaries of the Military Departments shall: a. But thing is it's your life your goal stop doing it and wait until you can pass trust me on this. 0 "Applicants need to be aware of the standard we hold our service members to when they join the service.". I'm so worried that I will pass the initial test but get a callback later telling me I failed the lab test. Tags: drug test help meps Justlovedogs New Member #1 Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020 Ok so here's the thing, I'm not a regular smoker. Cut-off levels exist so that trace amounts that sometimes pop up in samples, like the alcohol . I dont want to say that I am 100% drug-free, because there are still some things that I do want to completely rid myself of. trailer << /Size 31 /Info 16 0 R /Root 19 0 R /Prev 54209 /ID[<8e16eba55a54fecc106e39ae3c5e79dc><28ea9222b8da3ee8785b6245fbe29334>] >> startxref 0 %%EOF 19 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 15 0 R /Metadata 17 0 R /PageLabels 14 0 R >> endobj 29 0 obj << /S 59 /L 103 /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 30 0 R >> stream I can pass the 50 ng ones currently (I tested myself for it today and passed) however, if it is a 15 ng test then I may not pass. Ipso facto, if you pass the 50ng/ml, they don't test it at 15. Why? You should try not to risk yourself when you know that if you fail your life plan will be very different than what you thought. The first test is a cheap and fast immunoassay screen. 0000000700 00000 n Will I pass? I am a drug-free person, but I dont want to say that I am completely drug-free, because I am human. Edit 2: why tf am I being downvoted for asking an honest question? 0000000877 00000 n Time to stop smoking once you inDon't risk your carer on a joint. I'm requesting that someone please chime in only if they know for sure, because frankly, I can't afford to be wrong on this, for obvious reasons. I never get the exact same responses as I do with most other questions. "Military applicants currently are tested on a small subset of drugs that military members are tested on," Martin said. The main story is a group of people who are trying to kill each other. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). As far as the question of meps drug test cutoff level goes, that is a very difficult question. the other analyte(s) within the group must be 80 percent He would be enlisted right away. The updated policy allows applicants who test positive to reapply after 90 days, if the particular service allows it, Martin said. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.navycs.com/blogs/2008/07/09/military-drug-and-alcohol-testing, https://www.utestdrugtesting.com/product/thc-15/. Cut-off levels are the defined amounts you can have in your system before you are considered positive for a specific drug. Its about the deaths of the groups. That is, labs that follow the guidelines consider drug testing to be negative if detection is below either cutoff level. 2. Unfortunately, I am not at the stage where I would want to take a drug test to detect a specific drug. From what I understand, the cutoff is for normal "clean" is 50ng and that is what most people refer to when they say "it only takes 30 days". %%EOF Which is that if you pass the 50ng test in the office, they do not test it further, and only test for 15ng if you fail the initial one in the office. Then again only some of those are tested. But, you may be good. Medical Evaluation. and our If not then you don't. I went to my recruiters office in the morning and took the icup drug test and it came up positive for thc. %PDF-1.5 % The glucose (blood sugar) urine dipstick test is performed on-site and is intended to detect diabetes or glucose intolerance. endstream endobj 3312 0 obj <>/Metadata 179 0 R/Outlines 273 0 R/Pages 3309 0 R/StructTreeRoot 349 0 R/Type/Catalog/ViewerPreferences<>>> endobj 3313 0 obj <>/MediaBox[0 0 612 792]/Parent 3309 0 R/Resources<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/Tabs/S/Type/Page>> endobj 3314 0 obj <>stream What Are The Major Difference Between Smoking And Vaping Weed. Bro just stop smoking. Edit: Guys I do not smoke anymore and I'm not trying to cheat anything! I have to answer this question. If you fail the military drug test as an applicant looking to enlist, you still have a chance to retake the test after 90 days at a Military Entry Processing Station (MEPS). An official website of the United States Government, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, (Follow Lisa Ferdinando on Twitter: @FerdinandoDoD), Hosted by Defense Media Activity - WEB.mil, Department of Defense Instruction 1010.16. However, if you fail the test twice, you will be permanently disqualified, and will not be able to serve in any military branches. hb```,lfB you go there before joining the military. Discussion in 'Marijuana Consumption Q&A' started by Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020. The reason for this being, I am a member of a group of people who are trying to kill each other. Cookie Notice SECRETARIES OF THE MILITARY DEPARTMENTS. I passed a random military drug test 10 days after smoking. It takes closer to 3 months to get below that threshold, and I am apparently not there yet. 1826 0 obj <>stream I've ordered several home tests that have a 20ng cutoff (could not find a 15ng test) and I've failed every single one!!! within the group must have a concentration equal to Is the meps thc cut off 50 ng/ml or 15? Ive posted this on a few sites and im just trying to get the most information. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). The cutoff for these things is 50 ng/mL but in the military, the confirmation level is 15 ng/mL. 0.5 ng/mL and Confirmatory Test Level was 0.4 ng/mL. I quit for good. Meps drug test cutoff Discussion in ' Marijuana Consumption Q&A ' started by Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020 . I have tried, but it never was for me. 1 As delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol-9-carboxylic acid (THCA). A military drug test is more stringent than most. hW]oJ+. So which is it? The first test is a cheap and fast immunoassay screen. analytes from the group must be used for calibration, I'm not going to smoke anymore and I'm not trying to pull one over on the military. We do the testing, but the people who believe in us are the ones who are sick. The group is actually the protagonist, who is trying to kill each other. (a) Initial drug testing. The updated policy is universal and allows only one opportunity to reapply for military service regardless of drug type, he said. He's worked as both an freelancer and with Business Today before joining our team, but his addiction to self help books isn't something you can put into words - it just shows how much time he spends thinking about what kindles your soul! As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. For some reason it isn't letting me send PMs right now. I had not smoked for about 22 days before the icup test. 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