No it is not a light striker fired trigger. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. I used to have one. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. Every trigger Ive ever pulled is better than the LCP. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. Really disappointed in how this was presented. Lol, it is more than obvious that John Hope does not have a clue about the Beretta Pico. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. Do they now have 12 round mags? You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. How do they perform? I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. I just hated the trigger. So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. . For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. The one I had was utter shit. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. Ive no complaints. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? Have owned and shot most of them. It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. The sccy is very similar. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? I dont care for the finger grooves, the chunky feel, or the bullets rattling in the magazine when they arent stacked just right. (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. Oh not to mention Sccy has great A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock Great little pistol. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. The Recoil spring is a one spring like almost any other. 5 Best 380 Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2022 - Gun News +1 Mag Extensions are the only change to it. The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. That said, I have never tried to pocket-carry one so Im not voting on it in terms of that specific criteria. Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. And probably never fired one. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. Ill definitely be checking it out. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. Their Reviewers have alot of feed issues due to lack of knowledge of proper grip. Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. I had issues with mine to start. Arguably one of the best and most popular pocket pistols, the pf9, was not on the spreadsheet. The .380 ACP semi-automatic pistol is one of the most popular categories of concealed carry weapons in the United States and has been for years. That right there should have indicated that something was up when they feature it at a SHOT SHOW and it takes 2 years to finally put it out for sale. Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. i used to own a keltec p11. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light Because they werent reliable? Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. Bodyguard were well rated. Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. Great sights, ability to change out to night sights and on and on. Maybe if there was an () in theremaybe that might work like Tpanga or Gnai or some such name. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. what a waste of time. Super long heavy pull, which is understandable on a DA only no safety gun. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. The spreadsheet seems flawed to me. I had 4 LCPs that went down with cracked grips, frames, broken take down pin, split rails etc. He didnt even require them to be positive. Obviously you really do not get into pocket guns or spend time with folks that do. My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. The Pico is top notch. An odd shaped frame that in my opinion they actually went too small on trying to outdo everyone to be the king of small in 380s. It is light and works. My Gosh folks, this is total BS, read the directions. I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. Totally agree. On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. Well, youre in luck, because your fellow Americans have voted, and for some pocket guns, the results arent pretty . Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. I have 100s of rounds through both my kahrs with zero fails. Split chassis, cracked frames, split rails, broken take down pins. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. But unlike those highly rated guns, the Hellcat IIs rating is in the toilet. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. He does not know how to use it. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. Anyone have the Bersa .380. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. Have you put more than a box through it? Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. Yes, Im sure theyre out there, but the odds youll score one of those unicorns remain low. Must be the best gun ever. . You can get these on line at times for Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). No, maybe we are focusing on the self promotion IN CONJUNCTION with the very questionable methods of research and conclusions drawn from them. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. Just keep shooting your pistol. Whatever-everything else pops inand their FB page is odd too. Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. I bought it after reading the review on TTAG. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. Its a joy to shoot. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. How is the pot metal Cobra #2? YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. ******SPONSORED CONTENT/PRODUCT PLACEMENT******. So the recoil is stout. I bought it because the idea of 10+1 rounds in 9mm was very appealing. Do you really know anything about pocket guns? The warranty cant be beat. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. You sound smart. Booth #72617 Cabot Guns I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. Look at the back of the slide. Im curious as to how you derived your +/- error bars and why you are calling 25-50 votes statistically significant. Those are awfully small sample sizes compared to the number of guns of each make/model in production. The gun design has never worked well . Im not going to bash talk the CPX-2 , but its going to take me a while to get use to it. Five for sure and nobody can show otherwise. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. Encountered types on the old KT forums that whines like a little girl. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. (Including the book he wrote about how to cheat Amazon buyers by faking reviews.). Stainless steel through out the gun. This gun looks a whole lot like the Ruger LCP and Kel-Tec P-3AT. Get a Kahr CW380 or P380 and just be done with it cause they really dont get much better for pocket 380 carry IMO. Bottom line: you can do much better. Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. The Manual says clearly not to dry fire the gun without snap caps. Ive been averaging one light hammer strike every magazine or two, that requires a second pull of the trigger to ignite, regardless of ammo brand. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. Mild. just kidding 32,490 views Aug 21, 2021 1.1K Dislike Share nutnfancy 852K subscribers Another ranting reviewoh man we do not like Its very much a personal decision then, based on fit, function, and how well it shoots. No thanks. I laughed when I got to the CM40. I think the wheel guns are less likely to have a problem. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. Did you give them Cyrillic numbers to rate with? No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. they do have a 200 round break in that they tell you to expect possible fails also. If its good Ill spread the word. Or having the mag cleaned and inspected? I put the new glock style slide release on mine and it is a little slimmer now. Mine also runs well, and they feel really well made. The guy did a service to the gun community by creating this website and writing a cautionary article, and some assholes gotta focus on the self-promotion. Once in a great while, a firearm becomes so popular that it becomes a cultural icon. Yeah, apparently without the server capacity to handle the resulting load increase, too. Of all the firearm purchases you may make in your lifetime, a pocket gun is probably the one you can least afford to screw up. Is it possible to find a Hellcat II that runs well, shoots well and fits well? Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. Or did all those voters fly to Russia to test them out? I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? The gun works incredibly well if you use the recommend FMJ ammo as listed in the manual. No problems when used within its limits. Funny the SCCY was rated on 2 other surveys as one of the top 5 affordable and reliable pocket guns. Does this guy have any gun expertise? My old PPK/s doesnt like Blazer alum. Then Ill be unstoppable!!!!! The trigger guard on the LCP has also been enlarged in order to accommodate a gloved finger without risking pulling the trigger. Those were the worst. I appreciate the review. The Beretta Pico is probably one of Berettas biggest blunders. M&P Shield EZ .380 6. I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. Any failure rates? Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. Three weeks before it was even released. I have two of the Picos. They never protected their early designs/. Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! 3) SCCY Industries CPX-2(4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes). BUT! But still, Im sure there are worse ones. Thank-you. This is NOT a target gun. This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. You got to be a rookie. The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. Yes it did. Broke the ejector. SuccySuckeySuckySucySukyNope. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. It is my bicycle gun. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. It is my favorite except the 15 ounce weight makes it have more recoil than a typical 9mm. Do you perhaps have a very early one? Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. TCP and P3AT triggers were clearly worlds better than it. Taurus 738: Price $355.66. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. How is it possibly at the top of the list? I have pocket holsters for all but the S&W and had been carrying the XDS 45 regularly till yesterday. Designed to be smaller and more compact than the Nambu 14 for use by armored vehicle crewmen and pilots, the pistol had design Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. 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